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Browsers schmowsers

Fred Oliveira on October 23, 2005

There are a lot of posts out on the blogosphere arguing about what the best browsers are, how standards compliance is affecting new releases, whats hot and whats not. Now for tech people who know what web standards are and the differences between browsers, thats great. But for those who only care about seeing webpages, I’m not sure. This post will outline some of the current possible choices and hopefully give enough information so that (regular) people can make their own decisions on which browser to use.

If you’re a hardcore browser hacker or a standards advocate, this post may not be your cup of tea because of its simplicity - but I definitely want to know which browser you’re using and why, so make sure you leave a comment. The next few posts about bleeding edge compliance though may interest you, so keep an eye out.

Firefox (Windows, Mac, Linux)

Firefox Firefox from the Mozilla Foundation, is an exciting project. Despite the fact that the browser went through two other names before, its success is amazing. Due to its open-source nature, Firefox has a great community of people supporting it, extending it, and making it a great solution for standards-compliant web browsing.

The software, available for the three major platforms (windows, mac and linux) has seen a its 100th million download just some days ago, so this makes it a great time to celebrate. Firefox is the browser I recommend for Windows and Linux users (and arguably, for macs too - more on this later), because you can tailor it to fit your needs and because it’s extremely stable and safe.

Opera (Windows, Mac, Linux)

Opera Opera, that became free for desktop platforms just this month, is a good browser. Currently in it’s 8th major release - Opera 9 is almost out there -, it is used by quite some people. It is extendable and skinnable and has a great community around it. The guys at opera are making a huge effort to push standards compliance into the browser which is undoubtedly a great thing.

I personally don’t use opera on my computers for one major reason: It doesn’t feel right. There are a couple of interface details with the browser that annoy me, and if this is the app where I’ll be spending the most time using on my machines, I want it to feel productive, flexible and lean. Unfortunately it doesn’t work for me, but it may work for a lot of people. Try it out (it works on windows, linux and mac), and if it’s your cup of tea, go for it.

Internet Explorer (Windows)

Internet Explorer Microsoft’s Internet Explorer is a peculiar case. A lot of people use it because it’s a default in the most used operating system, and people don’t change defaults. The problem is, due to some of the browser’s features (like ActiveX), it is extremely insecure. Also, standards compliance is sort of a joke in the current publicly released versions.

This makes IE both the worst browser someone could use (in its current state), and the most used one out there. Oh the irony. Now before you think this is all about bashing IE, I will say that the next version of the browser may be much better - I know efforts are being made, but as Molly keeps saying, it’s hard to change a browser like IE when the engine behind (Microsoft) it is so hard to get moving. We’ll see how it goes.

Safari (Mac)

Safari Apple’s Safari, unfortunately only available on the Mac, is undoubtedly a great browser. It is extremely fast and standards compliant - moreover, the new developer releases of WebKit (the framework that empowers the application) are amazing, and really pushing the boundaries of standards compliance and technology adoption (like SVG). Unfortunately, Safari is not really extensible, nor does it have the community behind it like Firefox does. But for many people, the performance compensates for that.

Safari is an amazing browser if you use a mac, and for me, the only real competition on the platform is Firefox - that unfortunately is still a little slow. If you’re in a mac anyway, chances are you’re using safari. My advice is, don’t change unless you need the power of some of Firefox’s extensions.

Wrapping up, final decisions

There are many other browsers out there for all platforms, but these four are currently the ones fighting for a place in the podium. I could talk about Camino (for macs), Konqueror (for linux), etc. but the actual competition is between the 4 “major” browsers I outline above. If you really want to make a full-blown, informed decision on browsers, take some time to go through them and pick your fave.

With no further ado, though, here’s my take on the recommended browsers per platform. Feel free to disagree, I’d love to hear your opinions (and what you actually use and why) in the comments:

  • Windows - Firefox, because it’s safe, fast and standards compliant. For me, it is the first thing I get on a fresh Windows installation.
  • Macs - Safari because it’s extremely lightweight and standards compliant. Firefox if you need any particular extensions or functionality that Safari doesn’t have.
  • Linux - Firefox or Konqueror - I personally use Firefox because I don’t use KDE on my linux machines, but both browsers are great choices if you want standards compliance.

What do you use and why? Are web-standards important to you as a web user or don’t you particularly care? Make sure you leave your comments, I’d love to hear your opinions.


Comments on this post

Michael Arrington

Nice Post Dude.

Ernesto

Great review. I personally prefer Opera, because is faster than all the alternatives, is multi-platform (and that’s important for me), is has lots of great features out of the box, without the need for a chunk of extensions, its download is smaller and includes a mail client, you don’t have to be restarting it every time you make some silly change.

The second option is Firefox, because I don’t use Macs and thus I haven’t use Safari or Camino. Konqueror is fine too. IE is not a choice at all. If I have to use it to access some site, I prefer not to visit the site at all.

Anyway, as you said, people can freely disagree. Great post.

eric Lin

as a mac user, i’m a sucker for safari. i love the clean look to it. i love that it renders most pages quickly and accurately. i hate that it’s not very in-browser text editor friendly. but i’ve tried firefox (and camino, and flock) and nothing renders pages as smoothly on macs. small text is still perfectly legible and pages are formatted well.

Sean O'Hagan

I first moved away from Internet Excrement to one of Firefox’s ancestors as an ethical choice. I had to forestall this action as FireSomething would crash when I clicked my online bank’s login button. So I moved back to IE. Finally, a following version stopped crashing, and I moved over permanently. I was quite happy to discover that FireWhatsit was fast, and had some very cool features. I haven’t looked back. Nowadays, I only open up IE to do cross-browser testing for my web creations.

derek punsalan

Firefox for me. I was hooked after I realized the efficiency specific extensions offered users. I was able to build a browser that suited my needs. In addition, I was able to load my specific setup on to a USB thumbdrive allowing me to take my favorite browser around with me anywhere. Oh, and do I need to mention standards compliant?

Now that Flock is out, I’ve been hooked to that. I’ve done some minor tweaking to get my favorite Firefox extensions ported to Flock.

Casey

On a Mac, Camino is the best choice. It combines FF’s rendering and functionality with anative cocoa interface. Its goregeous, fast, and powerful.

David

Camino all the way.

FireFox on the Mac is just too slow, but camino pulls the functionality and speed together perfectly with that sexy cocoa UI

Eddie Sowden

I will third this Camino vote. You get the power of Gecko, and the looks of sweet cocoa.

Electric Monk

Omniweb. (Mac only)

Saved state, per site preferences, graphical tabs, workspaces…

Awesome features nobody else duplicates in full, downside is that it’s typically a few months behind the latest Webkit.

Safari or Camino for the lightweightness and speed otherwise.

Opera is un-Mac like as is Firefox to a lesser extenet, and currently so is Flock - but Flock looks very sweet nonetheless. Google Word 6 Mac if you want to know about Mac like and how it kills you if you’re not in that market.

Brad Geddes

Avant browser. It’s a frameset of IE, so has all the IE compatibiliy issues with many website, but allows for quick changes such as disabling flash, scripts, etc.

One of the first browsers to allows for some great tab functionality.

Gustavo Pimenta

I use mostly Safari and Firefox, more or less, for the same reasons as you. But I have a problem with the latter: stability. In the beginning I thought that the problems were related with the fact that I have a huge amount of extensions, but after speaking to office colleagues that have the same problems and don’t have extensions installed I realize that it’s a problem with the browser. I still use Firefox because of the extensions power, but the stability problems really piss me off.

Pete Cashmore

Firefox. But I agree with Gustavo - it does have some stability problems, especially if you have lots of tabs open.

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Peter

I use Konqueror on Linux as my primary browser, with Firefox as a rarely used secondary. I used to use Firefox a lot more as I also ran Windows, so was sharing the bookmarks and history between the two setups, but nowadays I’ve all but stopped running Windows so it’s all Konqueror. Firefox is just a little too slow to start up, and I like to close and open things regularly…

Whenever I’m on a Mac I use Safari, no complaints there.

On Windows I’ll always install Firefox, and it offers me a solution when friends ask me how to get rid of those annoying popups on IE.

Standards compliance is important, but I also code websites so have to test and run on at least Konq, Firefox and IE, meaning I rarely use bleeding-edge standards. IE7’s improvements mean nothing until it’s the widely-installed browser (I only support IE because it’s realistic) — if half can’t upgrade to Longhorn anytime soon, I can’t see it having a huge impact on coding standards… yet.

Bob Aman

Firefox 1.5 Beta.

It seems to be quite a bit faster on the Mac than the older versions of Firefox. Although, if someone were to somehow make Camino as extensible as Firefox, I would totally be down with using it. But right now, I’m far to attached to Greasemonkey and AdBlock.

Philip Spohn

I use Firefox primarily, at first for tabbed browsing, now for extensions. Security is a big question, and I wonder what I’ll be using when IE 7 is out?

Jason

*looks over his shoulder to the Firefox poster on the wall.* When someone tells me about a problem on their computer, 9 times out of 10 I will tell them to install Firefox and hear no more complaints from them. The only reason IE sees the light of day on my computer is my clients would throw a fit if their webpages displayed incorrectly (read: correctly) on IE.

Daniel

Have you tried Opera 8.5 for Mac?

Really good! ;)

Paul

On Windows I prefer Firefox. Gotta have that Gmail Delete Button extension. But I sure wish it didn’t take years to awaken from Hibernate with multiple tabs open. Maybe 1.5?

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Mind Booster Noori

You forgot Mozilla Browser from Mozilla Suite, which I use and prefer, rather than Firefox…

Felix Miata

SeaMonkey is what I run 24/7, for browsing, email and IRC. Netscape had the right idea many years ago to provide an integrated internet suite, an idea that remains no less good today. Install Firefox and Thunderbird and you have to open two separate Geckos (nearly twice as much RAM) too dumb to naturally interact with each other.

Mozilla 1.7.12, Firefox 1.0.7 and Opera 8.5 are currently what I install on every windoze machine that comes to me for dejunking, but the anything but IE/OE/O instruction I give to go along with it focuses on Moz.

For web site testing on Linux I use mostly Epiphany, which has a friendly reminder on the toolbar of the zoom state, but also FF and SM, rarely Konq, whose UI gives me a kind of claustrophobia just like Opera.

iRobt

fireFox rules! flock is my current default for testing and promises to stay that way since it’s based on the current fireFox and offers integrated socialSoftware.

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Dave

I have just started using Opera on both Windows and Mac OS X. Opera on Windows is great, I stopped using Internet Explorer along time ago and started using FireFox since PR 1.0. Ever since 2.0 though it has became so bloated and unstable that sometimes IE7 even feels better, plus I have also read somewhere that FireFox isn’t that secure?

I have tried Opera a couple of times, but only recently have I began to realise its true potential. There is still some work that needs to be done on the Mac version, because it is quite slow loading up and it doesn’t go that well with the Cocoa interface. I am undecided yet on whether to continue using Safari as my main browser or to goto Opera. One thing that would be nice in Opera for Mac would be a spell checker built in like Safari and FireFox has.

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