Comments on: Web 2.0 and the necessity of failure

By: Webreakstuff » O bubble, where art thou?

Webreakstuff » O bubble, where art thou? — Mon, 08 Jan 2007 01:58:06 +0000

[...] I’m linking to his post because of two things. Firstly because I respect Mike’s opinion and he’s in a privileged position to assert whether we’re in a downward or upward slope. Second, because he talks about something I’ve thought and written about in the past, in a post called “Web 2.0 and the necessity of failure” – failure in a time of innovation. [...]

By: Web Too.Many: The Real Social Software Faceoff « //engtech

Web Too.Many: The Real Social Software Faceoff « //engtech — Thu, 28 Sep 2006 20:00:33 +0000

[...] The Internet is in a web2.0 bubble. If it isn’t a financial bubble (dotBomb) it is at least a “wow” bubble and an “atmosphere of innovation dilution”. Selling your company on e-bay seems to be a viable business plan. Don’t bother getting excited about every single new web2.0 application. They’ll be gone in three years. The ones that are already massively popular are here to stay if they don’t screw it up, but everyone else jumping on the bandwagon is screwed unless [...]

By: engtech

engtech — Thu, 28 Sep 2006 19:55:24 +0000

I agree wholeheartedly. As a matter of fact, I'm going to link to you in that post.

By: CrunchNotes » The Real Story About TechCrush

CrunchNotes » The Real Story About TechCrush — Fri, 22 Sep 2006 13:03:02 +0000

[...] Sept 9: Fred Olivera says we need to announce failures when they happen. [...]

By: Blair

Blair — Tue, 19 Sep 2006 17:26:59 +0000

“… should LINK the …”

Sorry.

By: Blair

Blair — Tue, 19 Sep 2006 17:26:20 +0000

Just figured I should like the following article from John Battelle’s Searchblog

Failure to Fail: http://battellemedia.com/archives/002825.php

By: Steve E

Steve E — Tue, 19 Sep 2006 07:57:35 +0000

There will always be a number of sites or services which will be seen as failures due to their inability to secure funding or make an income. There will always be a number of sites or services which will be seen as a failure due to their inability to pull in large user volumes. However the ones that will fail and disappear are the badly thought out sites and services that are really just a gratuitous use of technology and after the hype has died they will fade away.
Nobody should be afraid of falling into the first two cases. Everyone should avoid falling into the third!

By: Mario

Mario — Thu, 14 Sep 2006 15:07:41 +0000

Isn’t it the the ‘normal’ daily user who makes someting a failure or not in terms of numbers and use? You can be a tech crunch guy or girl however mostly seeing things from a complete different point of view as just the ‘normal’ customer out there on the net. And that’s where I see the biggest problem as most of the new developments are related to audience numbers and dollars only. Other side is indeed to ask what is failure? Failure could indeed paves the way for better for new people jumping in and improving old ideas which in the first place turned to be out as failure. Failure for you would maybe a huge succes for me. How do you want to set your standard to say something is a failure? Protopage is a failure in my opinion, however it could be a big success for someone else, user or owner. Where do you draw the line? I could find a web 2.0 solution targeted to a group of 10 people only… still it could be a huge success even making millions of dollars with it but complete worse less and a failure to you… Just let it go, you would find a natural regulation, sites come and go, sites come ago and it all depends on so many factors to make it a success or not. Another one… Flickr is to me a failure after all, after a longer time of using it basically for myself, and you know why??? My mum, my sister even a lots of friends here in Indonesia just can’t figure out how to use it. Log in procedure is really a fxxxxx up thing and once logged on it takes a Guru to find your way around. So after being so content with Flickr myself in the first place, other users made it a failure for me. I just can’t get them on to see my Bali Paradise pictures.Have a look yourself, thousands of profiles there not being updated for months!

By: knowologist

knowologist — Sun, 10 Sep 2006 19:09:52 +0000

btw, i forget to say that i digged your article. :)

http://digg.com/tech_news/Web_2_0_and_the_necessity_of_failure

By: knowologist

knowologist — Sun, 10 Sep 2006 19:07:41 +0000

I agree with your points, mainly the natural selection. Just like on everything else, we can take almost for sure that the
Darwin’s principle will lead the web to give users only what’s interesting – the survival of the fittest.

Web2.0 it’s about evolving too – all that beta thing – so, not only those who fail but, those who evolve will help the web to survive the bubble’s burst and be a better world for us, users.