Comments on: Solving the social network problem http://blog.webreakstuff.com/2007/08/fixing-social-networks/ A blog on entrepreneurship, user experience, and web innovation. Published by Fred Oliveira. Tue, 13 Dec 2011 18:19:07 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Social software concerns http://blog.webreakstuff.com/2007/08/fixing-social-networks/comment-page-1/#comment-41930 Social software concerns Fri, 16 Jul 2010 04:52:59 +0000 http://blog.webreakstuff.com/2007/08/fixing-social-networks/#comment-41930 [...] Webreakstuff got it right, methinks, when they mused about the value of OpenID and microformats to help open up social networks from this perspective: I want networks to ask me, right off the bat when signing up, if I already have a profile that can be imported in (through hCard+XFN). I type in the URL for my OpenID and the network gets my information (gets OpenID page, downloads hCard formatted information, builds my user information based on that). Then it can grab my list of friends from XFN formatted data. With one textfield (the URL for either my OpenID or a profile on a different network), it would pre-populate both my information and the information for friends I want to add. Sweet. [...] [...] Webreakstuff got it right, methinks, when they mused about the value of OpenID and microformats to help open up social networks from this perspective: I want networks to ask me, right off the bat when signing up, if I already have a profile that can be imported in (through hCard+XFN). I type in the URL for my OpenID and the network gets my information (gets OpenID page, downloads hCard formatted information, builds my user information based on that). Then it can grab my list of friends from XFN formatted data. With one textfield (the URL for either my OpenID or a profile on a different network), it would pre-populate both my information and the information for friends I want to add. Sweet. [...]

]]> By: Allen J. http://blog.webreakstuff.com/2007/08/fixing-social-networks/comment-page-1/#comment-41680 Allen J. Tue, 13 Oct 2009 03:53:43 +0000 http://blog.webreakstuff.com/2007/08/fixing-social-networks/#comment-41680 It will be very interesting to see all the social networking sites use these features and extend it to adding friends, pictures and their entire profiles. I think http://www.netyab.com is already doing it It will be very interesting to see all the social networking sites use these features and extend it to adding friends, pictures and their entire profiles. I think http://www.netyab.com is already doing it

]]> By: james.wanless.info » journal » Social software concerns http://blog.webreakstuff.com/2007/08/fixing-social-networks/comment-page-1/#comment-41546 james.wanless.info » journal » Social software concerns Sat, 23 Aug 2008 00:53:17 +0000 http://blog.webreakstuff.com/2007/08/fixing-social-networks/#comment-41546 [...] Webreakstuff got it right, methinks, when they mused about the value of OpenID and microformats to help open up social networks from this perspective: I want networks to ask me, right off the bat when signing up, if I already have a profile that can be imported in (through hCard+XFN). I type in the URL for my OpenID and the network gets my information (gets OpenID page, downloads hCard formatted information, builds my user information based on that). Then it can grab my list of friends from XFN formatted data. With one textfield (the URL for either my OpenID or a profile on a different network), it would pre-populate both my information and the information for friends I want to add. Sweet. [...] [...] Webreakstuff got it right, methinks, when they mused about the value of OpenID and microformats to help open up social networks from this perspective: I want networks to ask me, right off the bat when signing up, if I already have a profile that can be imported in (through hCard+XFN). I type in the URL for my OpenID and the network gets my information (gets OpenID page, downloads hCard formatted information, builds my user information based on that). Then it can grab my list of friends from XFN formatted data. With one textfield (the URL for either my OpenID or a profile on a different network), it would pre-populate both my information and the information for friends I want to add. Sweet. [...]

]]> By: New Media Signal - Today’s Top Blog Posts on New Media - Powered by SocialRank http://blog.webreakstuff.com/2007/08/fixing-social-networks/comment-page-1/#comment-41202 New Media Signal - Today’s Top Blog Posts on New Media - Powered by SocialRank Mon, 01 Oct 2007 10:03:30 +0000 http://blog.webreakstuff.com/2007/08/fixing-social-networks/#comment-41202 [...] Solving the social network problem [...] [...] Solving the social network problem [...]

]]> By: James Wanless » journal » Social software concerns http://blog.webreakstuff.com/2007/08/fixing-social-networks/comment-page-1/#comment-41199 James Wanless » journal » Social software concerns Mon, 01 Oct 2007 01:24:05 +0000 http://blog.webreakstuff.com/2007/08/fixing-social-networks/#comment-41199 [...] Webreakstuff got it right, methinks, when they mused about the value of OpenID and microformats to help open up social networks from this perspective: I want networks to ask me, right off the bat when signing up, if I already have a profile that can be imported in (through hCard+XFN). I type in the URL for my OpenID and the network gets my information (gets OpenID page, downloads hCard formatted information, builds my user information based on that). Then it can grab my list of friends from XFN formatted data. With one textfield (the URL for either my OpenID or a profile on a different network), it would pre-populate both my information and the information for friends I want to add. Sweet. [...] [...] Webreakstuff got it right, methinks, when they mused about the value of OpenID and microformats to help open up social networks from this perspective: I want networks to ask me, right off the bat when signing up, if I already have a profile that can be imported in (through hCard+XFN). I type in the URL for my OpenID and the network gets my information (gets OpenID page, downloads hCard formatted information, builds my user information based on that). Then it can grab my list of friends from XFN formatted data. With one textfield (the URL for either my OpenID or a profile on a different network), it would pre-populate both my information and the information for friends I want to add. Sweet. [...]

]]> By: Mark Scrimshire http://blog.webreakstuff.com/2007/08/fixing-social-networks/comment-page-1/#comment-41173 Mark Scrimshire Wed, 29 Aug 2007 03:47:28 +0000 http://blog.webreakstuff.com/2007/08/fixing-social-networks/#comment-41173 Fred, I agree. Social Networks need portability. OpenID and Microformats have great potential in solving this problem. I also want to see the solution include portable reputation. Many of us have spent years building a reputation around a particular screen name or handle. Why can't we leverage that reputation as we join a new social network and why can't I add the reputation quotient from my latest social network back in to my aggregated reputation. Fred,

I agree. Social Networks need portability. OpenID and Microformats have great potential in solving this problem. I also want to see the solution include portable reputation. Many of us have spent years building a reputation around a particular screen name or handle. Why can’t we leverage that reputation as we join a new social network and why can’t I add the reputation quotient from my latest social network back in to my aggregated reputation.

]]> By: bignose http://blog.webreakstuff.com/2007/08/fixing-social-networks/comment-page-1/#comment-41166 bignose Sun, 26 Aug 2007 10:54:50 +0000 http://blog.webreakstuff.com/2007/08/fixing-social-networks/#comment-41166 Gino: > I agree with a few of your points about OpenID, however, I don’t think it is “crazy” to set up different profiles on different sites. It's not that it's crazy *to* set up those different profiles. What's crazy is being *required* to set up different profiles even in cases where you want them connected. > Let’s take me, for example. I much prefer to keep my profiles separate, because I want to convey different, sometimes vastly different, things about myself to people in different contexts. Simple, right? Yes, it is simple. Set up a bunch of OpenIDs -- at the same provider, or different ones -- and then use each one in the different ways you like. But for each profile, use it at as many or as few *different* social-network sites as you like, to connect the disparate pieces of a profile together. At least, that's how it should work; and it lets people have as many, or as few, profiles as they wish. Gino:

> I agree with a few of your points about OpenID, however, I don’t think it is “crazy” to set up different profiles on different sites.

It’s not that it’s crazy *to* set up those different profiles. What’s crazy is being *required* to set up different profiles even in cases where you want them connected.

> Let’s take me, for example. I much prefer to keep my profiles separate, because I want to convey different, sometimes vastly different, things about myself to people in different contexts. Simple, right?

Yes, it is simple. Set up a bunch of OpenIDs — at the same provider, or different ones — and then use each one in the different ways you like. But for each profile, use it at as many or as few *different* social-network sites as you like, to connect the disparate pieces of a profile together.

At least, that’s how it should work; and it lets people have as many, or as few, profiles as they wish.

]]> By: Sérgio Santos http://blog.webreakstuff.com/2007/08/fixing-social-networks/comment-page-1/#comment-41156 Sérgio Santos Sun, 12 Aug 2007 15:28:50 +0000 http://blog.webreakstuff.com/2007/08/fixing-social-networks/#comment-41156 There's also a problem that still needs to be addressed and that probably keeps many people from wanting to have a global group of friends, like Gino Zahnd said. Not all friends are equal. While XFN (http://gmpg.org/xfn/11) does a sufficient job on the distinction of personal and professional 'friends', there's the need for further specification. I have friends at Last.fm with who I only share music tastes, and so on Flickr, Vimeo, etc... If I want to keep on a page the XFN specification of all my social network, I will need a bit more than 'met', 'contact' or 'friend'. There’s also a problem that still needs to be addressed and that probably keeps many people from wanting to have a global group of friends, like Gino Zahnd said. Not all friends are equal.

While XFN (http://gmpg.org/xfn/11) does a sufficient job on the distinction of personal and professional ‘friends’, there’s the need for further specification. I have friends at Last.fm with who I only share music tastes, and so on Flickr, Vimeo, etc…

If I want to keep on a page the XFN specification of all my social network, I will need a bit more than ‘met’, ‘contact’ or ‘friend’.

]]> By: Gino Zahnd http://blog.webreakstuff.com/2007/08/fixing-social-networks/comment-page-1/#comment-41155 Gino Zahnd Sat, 11 Aug 2007 23:13:49 +0000 http://blog.webreakstuff.com/2007/08/fixing-social-networks/#comment-41155 I agree with a few of your points about OpenID, however, I don't think it is "crazy" to set up different profiles on different sites. Let's take me, for example. I much prefer to keep my profiles separate, because I want to convey different, sometimes vastly different, things about myself to people in different contexts. Simple, right? OpenID might be a good option in some cases, but thus far I've not even wanted to use it for the aforementioned reasons. Maybe good for some, but not for me. Oh, and I don't think Flickr is a social network. Its roots might, might, might be remotely planted in that realm (after all, we still, for the time being, offer the Singleness option in your profile, but vibrant communities and tools that allow you to share photos with other folks != social network. I agree with a few of your points about OpenID, however, I don’t think it is “crazy” to set up different profiles on different sites.

Let’s take me, for example. I much prefer to keep my profiles separate, because I want to convey different, sometimes vastly different, things about myself to people in different contexts. Simple, right?

OpenID might be a good option in some cases, but thus far I’ve not even wanted to use it for the aforementioned reasons. Maybe good for some, but not for me.

Oh, and I don’t think Flickr is a social network. Its roots might, might, might be remotely planted in that realm (after all, we still, for the time being, offer the Singleness option in your profile, but vibrant communities and tools that allow you to share photos with other folks != social network.

]]> By: Social Networks have a Big Problem http://blog.webreakstuff.com/2007/08/fixing-social-networks/comment-page-1/#comment-41153 Social Networks have a Big Problem Sat, 11 Aug 2007 16:41:14 +0000 http://blog.webreakstuff.com/2007/08/fixing-social-networks/#comment-41153 [...] Fred Oliveira of the Webreakstuff blog decided to talk about the elephant in the room earlier this month. There’s a new social network going online every day and its a big elephant that everyone wants to ignore. This wouldn’t be such a problem, except for some reason people like to join them all. It’s gotten to the point that individuals are spending so much time managing their friends and different accounts that they tend to be a lot less social. [...] [...] Fred Oliveira of the Webreakstuff blog decided to talk about the elephant in the room earlier this month. There’s a new social network going online every day and its a big elephant that everyone wants to ignore. This wouldn’t be such a problem, except for some reason people like to join them all. It’s gotten to the point that individuals are spending so much time managing their friends and different accounts that they tend to be a lot less social. [...]

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