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	<title>Comments on: Oink and fixing the music industry</title>
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		<title>By: Rutger</title>
		<link>http://blog.webreakstuff.com/2007/10/oink-fixing-the-music-industry/comment-page-1/#comment-41248</link>
		<dc:creator>Rutger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 14:13:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice points. It is indeed really about the potential of the long tail.
I&#039;ve written about the lead user potential of communities like oink.

http://www.crowdsourcingdirectory.com/?p=76</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice points. It is indeed really about the potential of the long tail.<br />
I&#8217;ve written about the lead user potential of communities like oink.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.crowdsourcingdirectory.com/?p=76" rel="nofollow">http://www.crowdsourcingdirectory.com/?p=76</a></p>
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		<title>By: Drewx</title>
		<link>http://blog.webreakstuff.com/2007/10/oink-fixing-the-music-industry/comment-page-1/#comment-41241</link>
		<dc:creator>Drewx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 19:01:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the pointer.  I&#039;ve blogged this at Copyfight (http://copyfight.corante.com/archives/2007/10/30/oink_thumbs_its_nose_at_cartel_even_in_death.php)

With respect to your first point, try this sentence on for size: &quot;There&#039;s really no way that $4 bottles of water can compete with free.&quot;  I&#039;ve maintained for years that the bottled-water business is the model that the music industry should be copying.  We buy oceans of this stuff when there&#039;s free tap water just about everywhere.  It&#039;s all in the image and marketing.  If it can be done for water I&#039;m sure it can be done for digital music.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the pointer.  I&#8217;ve blogged this at Copyfight (<a href="http://copyfight.corante.com/archives/2007/10/30/oink_thumbs_its_nose_at_cartel_even_in_death.php" rel="nofollow">http://copyfight.corante.com/archives/2007/10/30/oink_thumbs_its_nose_at_cartel_even_in_death.php</a>)</p>
<p>With respect to your first point, try this sentence on for size: &#8220;There&#8217;s really no way that $4 bottles of water can compete with free.&#8221;  I&#8217;ve maintained for years that the bottled-water business is the model that the music industry should be copying.  We buy oceans of this stuff when there&#8217;s free tap water just about everywhere.  It&#8217;s all in the image and marketing.  If it can be done for water I&#8217;m sure it can be done for digital music.</p>
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		<title>By: frebro</title>
		<link>http://blog.webreakstuff.com/2007/10/oink-fixing-the-music-industry/comment-page-1/#comment-41238</link>
		<dc:creator>frebro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2007 15:09:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Point #5 would be the community on Oink that I don&#039;t see on any legal online music stores. The forums are overflowing with interested and knowledgable people who spend a lot of time helping you find new music, and discussing upcoming releases. That is a valuable resource that no online store could afford to keep.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Point #5 would be the community on Oink that I don&#8217;t see on any legal online music stores. The forums are overflowing with interested and knowledgable people who spend a lot of time helping you find new music, and discussing upcoming releases. That is a valuable resource that no online store could afford to keep.</p>
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		<title>By: links for 2007-10-27 (Leapfroglog)</title>
		<link>http://blog.webreakstuff.com/2007/10/oink-fixing-the-music-industry/comment-page-1/#comment-41237</link>
		<dc:creator>links for 2007-10-27 (Leapfroglog)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2007 06:22:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Webreakstuff Ã‚Â» Oink and fixing the music industry Oliveira discusses Oink&#8217;s demise and what he thinks online music stores should learn from it: price, commodity and (most importantly) choice. (tags: price commodity choice music oink p2p bittorrent copyright culture) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Webreakstuff Ã‚Â» Oink and fixing the music industry Oliveira discusses Oink&#8217;s demise and what he thinks online music stores should learn from it: price, commodity and (most importantly) choice. (tags: price commodity choice music oink p2p bittorrent copyright culture) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Bruno Figueiredo</title>
		<link>http://blog.webreakstuff.com/2007/10/oink-fixing-the-music-industry/comment-page-1/#comment-41236</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruno Figueiredo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 10:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Running the risk of being controversial, I think that Books, Music and Films should be free on the internet. The recent Radiohead experiment showed that bands can strive with &quot;donationware&quot;. It seems like a poor business model, but if you think about it, there are always movies that you want to see on a big screen with good sound effects, there are albums where you want the coverart or case because of its design/ingenuity and there are always books that someone will find more comfortable to read in paper.

Just imagine how this would impact the developing nations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Running the risk of being controversial, I think that Books, Music and Films should be free on the internet. The recent Radiohead experiment showed that bands can strive with &#8220;donationware&#8221;. It seems like a poor business model, but if you think about it, there are always movies that you want to see on a big screen with good sound effects, there are albums where you want the coverart or case because of its design/ingenuity and there are always books that someone will find more comfortable to read in paper.</p>
<p>Just imagine how this would impact the developing nations.</p>
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		<title>By: Antonio Pratas</title>
		<link>http://blog.webreakstuff.com/2007/10/oink-fixing-the-music-industry/comment-page-1/#comment-41235</link>
		<dc:creator>Antonio Pratas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 07:12:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It definitely was a huge library, and there I knew that I could find a lot of new artists that most people never heard of. If someone wanted to get to know a new band in determined genre, Oink was the place to go. 

I hope that the ideas of the music labels change, a bit like Radiohead did, to understand that they will be more famous if their music is easily spread. It&#039;s something like a graphic designer that wants to get noticed, he spreads his work publicly online, most bands don&#039;t, how can we get to know a band if we can just hear a music?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It definitely was a huge library, and there I knew that I could find a lot of new artists that most people never heard of. If someone wanted to get to know a new band in determined genre, Oink was the place to go. </p>
<p>I hope that the ideas of the music labels change, a bit like Radiohead did, to understand that they will be more famous if their music is easily spread. It&#8217;s something like a graphic designer that wants to get noticed, he spreads his work publicly online, most bands don&#8217;t, how can we get to know a band if we can just hear a music?</p>
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		<title>By: xaotica</title>
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		<dc:creator>xaotica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 02:09:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i&#039;d add a big #4 - quality. legal music sites will continue to flounder until they start offering FLAC or other uncompressed formats. it&#039;s just hard to justify paying for 160-192 quality mp3s. (note: i&#039;m not saying i don&#039;t recognize the few who do offer higher quality files... kudos to them, and i&#039;ve bought legal files from them to support it :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;d add a big #4 &#8211; quality. legal music sites will continue to flounder until they start offering FLAC or other uncompressed formats. it&#8217;s just hard to justify paying for 160-192 quality mp3s. (note: i&#8217;m not saying i don&#8217;t recognize the few who do offer higher quality files&#8230; kudos to them, and i&#8217;ve bought legal files from them to support it :)</p>
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